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Trading a basket of stocks (Basket trading)

Basket trading means buying or selling several stocks from the same sector or index.. Let's admit, the oil sector is growing and you decide to buy shares, included in the oil industry. Choose for example 10-15 stocks from that sector and as soon as the index gives you a signal, enter the selected promotions at the touch of a button.

Grinding it out, day after day

Partial translation of the topic Grinding it out, day after day, led by an experienced trader lescor (Canada)


lescor
01-10-10 03:57 AM

I decided to keep a public trade journal on 2010 year. I actually considered if this is a good idea, but that's why i decided to do this.

For the last couple of years of my trading, I gradually became more complacent and more lazy. I was lucky to have a couple of really good years and I didn't have a strong incentive to give my best in the long hours., to work on new ideas and to improve current. I am somewhat concerned about, what 2010 the year and beyond can be tough, as the government interferes more and more in our business and because of computers, with which we compete, it becomes harder to win and play by different rules. May be, it will help motivate me, to get down to business and stay ahead of the game. It will also keep me on top of keeping my records, which I really missed over the last year.

There is a lot of negativity expressed on this site, disbelief and cynicism about trade. I think, Most people, who are well prepared and ready to work, can become traders. I hope this year is not bad and I can provide some optimism to those, Who works, and prove the haters wrong.

In my diary there will be superficial features of that, how and what do I trade. Most of that, that I trade liquidity sensitive, and I don't want to invite people, to try and reverse engineer my system and then, compete with them for order execution. I am happy to take part in discussions on issues such as, for example, size positions, risk management, emotion management, etc., but don't be offended, if I do not answer your question like “what time and price, by which you entered this promotion and why did you exit?»

I'm just going to report weekly results. I have always treated daytime P / L like noise and do not pay attention to any time slots shorter, than a week, when it comes to tracking profits.

Difficulty setting goals for the year, as it is highly dependent on volatility. In my opinion, i will worry, if I am not able to make an average of at least $ 20k / month. $40k / month is one, what i consider on average, apart from the crazy end period 2008 of the year. As I already said, I'm ready, that this year will be difficult, so I'll be happy to scrape 250-300k. I will call it my goal for this year and I hope, that I will reach her.

Most of my trading is done on a prop account, which starts the year with $110,000. I also have a retail account, more than that, but most of the money is reserved for taxes, living expenses, etc., as well as to pay for a new house, which I am building. I trade on a retail account every day, but usually in a small volume and doing superficially different things. I do not trade on it, when volatility jumps. I do not expect this my retail account to return more than 30% from my total P / L.

lescor 01-10-10 04:08 AM
Surprisingly good first week. Net $23k на, about, 700,000 shares проторгованных.

I do not know if I will publish account statements every week, but I will publish the first week, to make things set.

lurefo 01-10-10 04:46 AM
Lescor, without going into details, can you tell us a little about your trading strategy? Trend Trading, U-turns, discoveries, RTM, etc.?

On the other hand, what are you going to change in your trading this year to solve problems, which you mentioned in the first post i.e.. with increasing competition from computers and decreasing volatility?

Pension_Admin 01-10-10 04:52 AM
Hello, Lescor.
You can tell about yourself and about, how did you become successful?

Also, without going into unnecessary details, could you please tell us about your money management strategy?

BPtrader 01-10-10 08:30 AM
Pension_Admin прав. We are not interested in trading details. We don't want to know about charts, charts, open or closed account balance, etc..

We are interested in your personal stories, how and when did you start trading, how long did it take, until you become profitable, how much did you do initially, significant events in your trading career, etc..

lescor 01-10-10 04:20 PM
Something about myself: I trade full time already 8 years. Before that I was a firefighter and had a great interest in the markets for several years.. I didn't know, what would i do, but the market siren song brought me back. I, mostly, lost all of my disposable income over a period of approximately 7 years, I have replenished accounts, who ended up at zero. Finally, i was just pissed, I decided, what gotta take and count this game, get out of it or pass 12 steps of the rehabilitation program.
I started reading Gary B. Smith, when he wrote for thestreet.com and only his approach, Seemed, worked with me. He used very very basic technical analysis for swing trading stocks and emphasized things like position sizing., money management, expected duration, etc.. It looked like a glowing light bulb, because now I could see how trade could be reduced to sheer numbers, and I really liked numbers and math. Before that, I only followed hot advice., newsletter rumors and recommendations. But this new approach suddenly made sense of it all. I read every article, what he wrote and every book, which he recommended and took notes, to consolidate it all. I have fixed the current trading plan, I learned MS Excel to track it and for a whole year of trading I did not lose money! I didn’t do anything, but I had all the statistics for review and new understanding of this game.

It was deep enough in my blood then and I knew, what a full-time transition should do. So I started my work with $40,000 for trade and putting aside a year of living expenses. I left my wife and children behind and drove across the country to trade in 3 months in the prop office, to try and speed up the learning process. It took about 4 Months, so that I stop losing money, until then i found that, what clicked and it worked pretty well since then.

As for how I traded, first of all, I only traded stocks. I will dabble in futures and options, but they are just trading at random. Most of what I do is reversal based.. I have about six different strategies, but two of them bring most of the profit. Some of them have some level of automation.

My trading is still based on principles, which I have studied more 10 years ago. Primarily – capital preservation. It took a long time, but the constant focus on this approach made the trade impartial.

lescor 01-10-10 07:44 PM
I answer some questions…

I didn't really run automated systems and “black” boxes. I have one system, which is automated on 100%, but she only trades the first 15 minutes at the beginning of the day. Most of my things – this is bigger “gray” boxes, where the system signals the setup and I decide to enter or not. I also use automation to manage trades and exits and to quickly send a large number of orders.. I would like to know how to program, but the learning process seems to me too long. I was very lucky, that I have friends, who know how to program and we worked together to develop the system. If i knew, how to program, maybe i could run more systems.

I am not doing anything special to deal with more computerized competition. My time frame is long enough and “black” boxes haven't come to this yet.

I can increase volume in some of my strategies, but this is largely due to the physical ability to enter and exit without killing stocks, especially if you need to enter / exit quickly. The size in positions is based on, mainly on that, how much pain i am willing to take, if the situation goes according to the worst-case scenario. Most, my trading includes staying in many promotions at the same time, like a basket (basketball) or portfolio. My main strategy – i get -10k several times a month, and i am ok with it. I start swearing around -20k and when it's very rare -30 -40, I start to fidget in my chair. So I have to look at my stats, volatility, news of the day and determine how bad things can be, and accordingly determine the base volume of the position. I don't think about, how much can I do, I always think about, how much can I lose.

Leave my family, when I started, it was really hard. Our children were 2 And 4 years and I have not seen my wife for almost 3 Months, living in a dark hole and being 12 hours in the office. But she's a wonderful woman and she believed in me and knew, what is that, what I should do.

Futures vs. stock – I have never made enough effort to trade futures. It seems to me, there are more 10.000 various stocks and only a few dozen futures. There are many more advantages and disadvantages to promotions., so I'd rather spend more time looking for them, than futures in a competitive futures market.

How many different stocks did I trade last week?? Not sure exactly, but probably about 50-60.

NoDoji 01-10-10 07:44 PM
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Quote from lescor:
Most of what I do is reversal based..
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  1. You mainly trade this strategy with or against the trend?
  2. Or do you look at situations, when prices constantly jump in the range and trade from the boundaries of the range?
  3. What is the average time spent in a position?

lescor 01-10-10 07:49 PM

  1. Counter-trend or gap filling.
  2. I will do this as well (another strategy)
  3. Depends on strategy, from 10 seconds to 6,5 hours. I also have swings and weekly positions., but that's not much of it, What am I doing.

lescor 01-11-10 04:58 AM
Answers on questions:

How do you scan setups, mathematically or on your own?
I use Trade Ideas scanner, but my things, who earn on “bread and butter” , use Excel to calculate entry point.

Are you a news trader or purely technical?
I trade everything, which provides a good opportunity, but I do not risk very much, unless it is part of a real system, which I have been trading for a while.

Are all your winning trades high reward / low risk in nature??
I do not calculate the reward / risk ratio for my trade.

What precision do you achieve in transactions??
My main strategies – 55-65%, i have one, which has almost 100% winnings, but these are rare deals.

You add to losing trades? How about profitable?
1. Sometimes, But not often. 2. Rarely

Are you considering fundamental news or it doesn't matter day trading?

I try not to think too much, but just carry out your plan. I spend a lot of time, reading the news, and weeding out stocks, if i think, that because of the news, they may behave unpredictably.

You deal with company reports? (Before or after)
To – do you have a guess and am betting on coin toss? Not. After – very rarely.

You trade the same stocks? If yes, how big is the stock list ? If you change your stock list, how do you scan for today's list?
Yes, the same list. About 600 Shares.

In addition to stocks, have you considered ETFs??
I would only trade ETFs or futures on technical patterns, especially swing trade. But at the moment I am not doing anything like this.

What is the largest drawdown since you became a profitable trader??
I have only had two unprofitable months since the yak started making money consistently.. A feature of one of my main strategies is that, that sometimes I have to take painful blows. Worst and quickest sheer pain was August 2007, when did the first hints of a credit crunch emerge?. I think it was about a drop 70% behind 20 minutes.
I have always strived to diversify moss strategies and it has proven, that it was a real help in flattening the curve of my capital growth line.

lescor 01-12-10 03:01 PM
I trade in a prop firm, my purchasing power (Buying Power) – it's all I need. I often use more 1 million. during the day.

The number of trades is usually proportional to the volatility. There have been few of them in the last few months., 10-20 in a day. In other cases, it may be +100. I manage most of them manually..

lescor 01-12-10 10:52 PM
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Quote from Gabfly1:
What is the predetermined risk you calculate on an average winning trade?
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I can not say exactly, because. I have no predetermined risk and I do not use stops. I try to give the deal time, and usually, when i get a loss, I continue to trade according to the plan, until something like that happens, what i'm starting to misunderstand.
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Quote from jnbadger:
In these difficult times, one can assume, that most of your trade (except OPG) falls on active time?
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Most of my trades were always during the first 90 minutes of the day, if the market is really active. Actually, last summer, I rarely sat at my desk after the first 1,5 trading hours.
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Quote from TheAngryHermit:
You say, what gaps – most of your trade.
In this way, one might say, what do you expect hep, to trade on its close (at least partial)? My experience was, that gaps are growing, and the gaps keep falling.
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Hep can go either way, but i try to apply some filters, which increase the chances of trading in my favor.

At the moment there is no time to translate the topic.. If you are interested – you can always read the original. There is a lot of interesting and useful information..

Day of Idiotic Decisions

ON OPG I didn't do anything. Intraday: CAT : Caterpillar Inc. Sector: Capital Goods > Industry: Constr. and Agric. Machinery Shorty in a bad place, there should have been a reversal or rollback. Perhaps she would have passed 50C cents yet, but the risk is 10C and the ratio to 5 I think it's very bad. COH : Coach, Inc. Sector: Consumer Cyclical > Industry: Apparel / Accessories This is generally a stupid deal and there were a few others like that., their schedule is almost the same. So I thought to see a reversal here and what will go up, this should not be traded at all., it's easier to throw money away at once. Some kind of idiocy…

Option exercise day( April )

Today is the exercise day, which means that we sell DJ – OPG promotions. OPG : sold basketball to dj shares, out of 22 got only 15 things. This is the first time I consciously do OPG on the day of exercise., I did it a little wrong, it was necessary to cover part of the position as the shares were issued, and I was waiting for a profit on the general basketball. BUT nothing the first pancake is not lumpy, earned and okay, next time I'll be smarter. Intraday : OMG : OM Group, Inc. Sector: Basic Materials > Industry: Chemical Manufacturing There was a clear UP trend on the daily chart, the stock broke through the high of today and could safely rise to 30$ Potential: 2.5$ ( real 2$) Risks: ~5C Ratio : 1 to 40 Mistakes: It was necessary to gain more position, risks are small, great potential.

Memorable OPGs

Thursday promised to be a very calm day, because on Friday the exchange did not work and there were 3 weekend, but even on such a day I found myself adventure :) OPG : I decided to buy Ritz, although I always sold them, but good news came out on the WFC and all finances flew to heaven even at the premarket, and the Ritz stood and did not move. Otoslav basketball shopping for 5 min before opening, I thought that I could cut more money and increased my positions by 50% . The position is tangible :)

Super Traders (part 2)

You can find the beginning of the story about super traders here: Super Traders (Introduction) Honestly, I have little idea, what else can a person do, worked as a trader for any length of time. Much like a drug. In the diversity and polarity of emotions and feelings, trading is close to extreme sports and fighting.. not without reason, Ancient Chinese treatises on the art of war are popular from the stock market literature. But that doesn't mean at all, what are traders in life, largely, people who are aggressive or physically strong. Not at all.. Shakes many with the wind, or sit quietly, because of the monitors, some ears stick out. Come, disassemble, what's going on there. But the market is closing, and it becomes clear, who is who. Of the other types of human activity, I would single out the following, roughly comparable to that, what a trader does: playing chess or cards (especially poker), tightrope walking over an abyss, peekaboo, attempts to prove to the whole world, what are you cool (or not an idiot), participation in Spanish bullfighting without preparation, learning chinese, sex with your worst enemy (when by agreement, when without). Целая гамма ощущений-состояний сопровождает трейдера каждый рабочий день.

Trader's trading styles

To make good money trading on the stock exchange, you need, so that your trading style matches your personal character as much as possible, circumstances, Experience. If a trader has a penchant for one style of trading, then his results in a different style will be much worse, up to negative. It's like working in a position you don't like.. Therefore, it is so important for a novice trader to know his niche in the market and act in his “own style”. Then synergy will work, and trade efficiency will go uphill. WHICH STYLE OF TRADING TO CHOOSE?

The market starts to come alive

Today was a good day to make money in the market. There were a lot of good promotions and opportunities. OPG : I bought a finance basketball at the opening, but they collapsed, although the market opened positive. A little lost. Intraday : VFC : V.F. Corporation Sector: Consumer Cyclical > Industry: Apparel / Accessories An absolutely stupid idea came up, short VFC by highs, in a growing market, the caught moose proved the absurdity of my idea. VAT : Autoliv Inc.

Fool's Day

OPG : The market opened in the red and decided to sell RITZ on OPG. They didn't really go, but I cut a little money. Intraday : Thought the market 5 the day will stand and therefore decided to watch on the sidelines, in the end did not trade anything. MOC : Everything was like yesterday, left buy , but everything started to fail. Sold Ritz and Finance, in front of the only pharmacy, on which I closed the minus basketball, after which everything went down, classic :) Results: Day finished flat, could make money. My discipline and concentration on trading began to limp. You need to pull yourself together and strictly follow your rules., very

March is over

Today was the last trading day for this month., which I successfully closed in plus. Unfortunately, I didn’t trade today because I closed in the red on a dead market for the previous three days and lost about a third of my earnings for the month because of my persistence to conquer the market :) For the fourth trading day in a row, the market is standing still and there is practically nothing to trade. MOC were buy today, but everything collapsed and closed badly, thanks to the terminal lags, I didn’t get my basketball and stayed with the money. I will write the results of the month and its analysis at the weekend.. Now rest and prepare for April, which I should make my best month.

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